Video I had to private from YouTube because audio got disable due to the music I used. Google is lame like that. I have been given permission to use the pictures and names at the end.
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I did try to mirror your video. But YouTube (Google) did complain that your video had a content owned by WMG (Warner Music Group). So the problem is the music that you have in your video. The reason for this is the law in the U.S called DMCA and where created by copyright lobbying groups in the U.S.
Yes, I know. It's still lame.
I just want to mention one thing about declaring your apostasy.. I think these people are brave to show that, but, you know, it's not just about bravery... For some moslems (good moslems), Islam has been deep in their heart, and some parents/family will literally die (by heart attack maybe?) if someone they love leave islam.. So, that's something to be considered too.. I left Islam, but I will not tell my parents/siblings just for the fact that they will be really heartbroken, or maybe even get a heart attack.. Which shows how strong this religion is..
Excellent points as always. You missed an opportunity though, I'd say. You could have, at the end there, posted a picture of Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an example of an ex muslim criticizing Islam and the attempts by the politically correct secular crowd to shut her up.
Kurt Westergaard, Flemming Rose, Christopher Hitchens, Salman Rushdie, Ehsan Jami, Pat Condell, Ibn Warraq, Sam Harris, Wafa Sultan, Taslima Nasreen, Aayan Hirsi Ali...
All atheists, all critics of Islam, all considered heroes by the atheists I know (admittedly a small sample).
How on Earth did you get the idea, that atheists are reluctant to criticize Islam?
From a Danish perspective, which I acknowledge is not pr. definition universally applicable, the questions is; when are the Christians and the Jews going to join the party?
(not sure where my previous comment went but here it is again..)
Great Christina, thx for helping the d(m)isinformed Western society to wake up.
Can anyone please explain to me why across Europe Islamic critics have to stand trial for 'causing offense' whilst Islamic scholars are free to teach disrespect of Kaffirs (non moslims), women and gays? That certainly should cause offense too right?
Any lawyers out there?
oops - read 'critics of Islam' - not 'Islamic critics'
@ JohnE77:
In many European countries Islamic clerics have stood trial, and been convicted of "causing offense." I am against hate speech-laws, but fair's fair; the law contains a stupid standard, but not a double standard.
In Denmark Hizb ut-Tahrir-members have been sentenced for causing offense (60 days suspended sentence for quoting the Quran on flyers rallying against Jews), and currently Taimullah Abu Laban is being investigated for hate speech.
May I ask what your source is for the statement "Islamic scholars are free to teach disrespect of Kaffirs (non moslims), women and gays"?
look for example at channel 4's "undercover mosque UK" documentary .
The point is that anyone that preaches the Koran/Sunna will address how to treat kaffirs, thereby pointing to their inferior position. I wonder whether Islam can be taught at all without these aspects, which are obviously offensive to any non moslim. Position of women would and gays would be offensive too.
@williamJansen
I agree with the stupid standard which is nevertheless not a double standard.
However, I wonder about the enforceability across mosques and madrassas across Europe. How often are clerics indicted?
Is there any site that lists convictions of muslim clerics?
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First, I agree with her that there is a reluctance to criticize Islam by atheists in general, though I'd say it's more a fear of being lumped in with the religious discrimination from Christians, a desire to be overly fair in our treatment of religions - even though, thanks to the civilizing effects of secular society, Christianity has mostly abandoned the barbaric attitudes and practices that Islam continues.
As for the claim that family members might "literally die" from finding out their relative has embraced sanity/abandoned Islam, sounds like the hysterical romantic claim "I'll just die if you leave me!" which might be true if suicide is committed but is no reason not to act in accordance with your true beliefs. It might sound harsh, but if someone is threatening their own life to control you then you and the world are better off without that person, relative or not.
Wow, that was really perverse sub/dude, you must be repressing those natural human desires most of practice as healthy, sexually active human beings. I hope you don't find yourself banging something inappropriate to satisfy pent up frustrations. You are probably a HUGE fan of the Christian Side Hug eh? Anyway, Christina, you are a brilliant human. I love your YT postings, but glad that I have discovered your blog. I wondered what had happened to you and found your Feb postings. I wish you and your brother all the best. I know fan support is cheap, but I hope we give you strength when yours falters, since you have given so many strength when we needed it, me included. One day, if he hasn't already, your lil bro will be inspired by your strength, as your followers are. You are a testament to free-thinking and uninhibited inquiry, completed degree or not. If it is your wish, I hope you find a way to finish it. But you are totally aware of how societal expectations are not always the only way. I believe you can go a long way on your intellect, hopefully there will be endless numbers that will see your talents. Spreading the word in Detroit, MI as much as I can.
where do you live?
Yes joey.. they will literally die of heart attack i had been an atheist exmuslim since i was 17 and i am 30 now.. and couldnt face my parents.
Going to the mosque every friday just coz i didnt know what to tell them was very irritating though. For 7 years now i had been living alone so i no more go to mosques..
Krina.. its a nice video and those who dont want to criticize islam plz go on and do.. Here in Egypt just a 2 days ago a sheikh came up and said this is going to be an islamic state and those who dont like it can go away. "That Sheikh does have lots of followers". After lots of criticism he came up and said its a joke. But come on religion IS detrimental to societies, especially in countries with horrible education and high illiteracy rates like Egypt.
Oh! i never write so much but well it was nice speaking my mind.
I criticize Islam and Xianity all the time in the blogs I write and sometimes Judaism. I think religion should be criticized esp when it harms others, takes away human dignity, self-esteem, etc. In fact, I recently wrote a piece concerning a 14 y.o. girl was raped and the imam sentences her for adultery giving her 101 lashes with a whip. She collapsed at 70 and died of internal injuries. She did nothing wrong, but yet she was condemned to death, when the man who raped her should have been convicted of a crime and served the punishment for it.
http://anamericanatheist.org/2011/04/05/christina-on-the-criticism-of-islam/
Reposted this for you. Keep up the good work.
Just one thing: Muslims are no minority in the Western society, this information is completely wrong. If you read / listen to The End of Faith by Sam Harris he states that according to the current evolution of society (that is Europeans growing older and having less children and Muslim continuing in their traditional way, with many children) in 25 years France will be majority Muslim.
I don't see atheists becoming defensive when it comes to Islam, on the contrary, both Hitchens and Harris, Dawkins even (I think) underline that Islam is the worst religion of all.
Unless you mean USA, all right. things change in this case. Europe is a scary case tho
thank you for finlly telling people that religion isnt like race or gender. its a choice!
http://lightoutsidethecave.blogspot.com/
I don't think my atheism has limited my ability as an artist in my criticism of Islam. Warning linked page is not for the faint hearted
http://contemporary-artist.info/realism/suicide-bomber.html
Quran 5:51 O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Quran 2:191 And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
fuck islam http://en.knowquran.org/koran/disbelievers/
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